A Subtraction Addition…but not yet

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  1. My head was spinning just reading your post (and then the Smaller Dress PDF) but it does look like fun and so not your boring run of the mill High Street RTW. Good luck. I am sure you will end up with a fantastic dress.

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  2. Oh my goodness, does this dress ever look difficult to sew, I don’t think I would ever be brave enough or skilled enough to attempt it! You always take on the most amazing projects, and this one definitely looks quite avant-garde! I wish you all the luck in the world with it, and I believe you can do it! You knocked Vogue 8858 out of the ball park and I know you can tame this beast too! 😀 ❤

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      1. Yikes! From the brief glance I took at the instructions, it does looks like a real head scratcher – and I thought that Butterick’s instructions were confusing! Is there any way that the pattern designer can be contacted with questions?

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      2. The instructions are fine [as far as they go] the problem seems to be some combination of my pattern pieces and the angle I positioned them [which is supposed to be random]. I think I’m just unlucky! I’ll salvage something out of it if it kills me!

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      3. That’s really too bad, I’m sure you will be able to salvage it somehow, though. If you were supposed to be able to position the pattern pieces randomly, and that isn’t working out, maybe the instructions were wrong about that? Have you been able to find reviews for the pattern? You might not be the only one who has had these problems. *hug* Good luck!!

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  3. so cool! i’ve looked at j roberts’ videos repeatedly and i’m still kind of stumped. i want to make this too, but the amount of fabric needed is making me hesitate. i think you’re right to try and work it out with the actual material. it’s not really math, it’s geometry and physics right? that’s what manipulating fabric is in the simplest terms. altho’ i suppose there’s math involved in measurements… anyway, do you join the ‘front’ circles to ‘back circles’, or join the pairs that are on the same side (front or back) to pull the length up a bit?? i never figured that out. good luck! thanks for showing us your experiments!! best, cat

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    1. It depends where you put the circles I think. This is the free pattern from Centre for Design, and you put 6 staggered circles on front and back, but it says to label them in pairs doing front and back separately…I think. Lol at least that’s what I did. If you join front to back you definitely HAVE to go through those loops, this way I think it’s optional, and just produces curved pleats basically [plus odd tubes and loops inside which PROBABLY just dangle] I’m baffled at this stage, Maybe it’s a random combination of the larger circles I cut to accommodate my not-model-sized torso? Time to unpick. At worst, I’ll get a very cool skirt. BUT I want a dress. Poop.

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  4. hmmm, i’ll have to go back and re-read the instructions, but that makes sense. maybe i should try this in jersey? but most of j roberts samples look like they use wovens. i feel your frustration, and admire your enthusiasm for trying challenging patterns. the most adventurous i’ve gotten is to size drape drape patterns up to fit my burda #46 body. maybe this would work in jersey? but most of j roberts’ samples look like they use wovens. i think jersey might droop instead of drape… xxcat

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  5. I’ve seen the videos, and until now I assumed that the circle joins just gathered the dress UP. Not that I was supposed to fit THROUGH the holes. I need to pay more attention and stop sewing while watching sewing videos.
    But wait. If this was a SEWING video…I’d have clothing at the end of it.

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    1. he does insist the holes should be big enough for your hips [or widest part] I’ve just watched another one that says you need to step through the holes, then shoe doesn’t and says you can cut the ‘straps’ away if you want. She also started with a much wider ‘tube’. I think. Oh I feel like abandoning it. Work tomorrow, I shall prevail!

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  6. You need to phone a friend. The guy in the demo doesn’t attempt it singlehanded – that’s a clue right there – then you needs a mannequin or a model, (I can’t work out how he is joining pieces, he looks like he’s using his scissors in places too). He’s got the assembly down pat demonstrating alternative ways to put it together for different looks.

    You can totally do this, you’ve thought through the basics, the difficulty, as you say, is handling the piece while keeping it controlled. It would be an idea to try a miniature croquette to get your head around what goes where. Nevertheless it’s worth persisting as you will rock this look. It would look great in jersey and needn’t cost a fortune and would punch well above its weight when done.

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    1. Apparently threading yourself through the holes is optional- I would think it would be quite uncomfortable in wovens? Anyway, it’s meant to make the garment have multiple permutations [all 64 of them for this one] It’s also supposed to be lined though, so that would lock it into one shape. Weird

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      1. I’ve been sitting on the bus this evening drawing diagrams of cylinders with handles on to try to figure this out, and I see now that going through the holes is optional. Fascinating stuff.

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      2. Yep- he does mention that very briefly, but from his explanation of the principle, and the size of the holes you need, it seemed to be important…I could have made tiny holes and got the effect without the shrinking. As we have said, in jersey it wouldn’t matter. Topology is amazing! If tomorrow is [as suspected] a snow day here, I will crack on

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  7. Lord have mercy! So glad I only have to deal with brides and miles of tulle and NO CIRCLES! Thinking about watching the video to understand the beginning and end results…what a nightmare for you!

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