Sub-par Subtraction

32 thoughts on “Sub-par Subtraction”

  1. I’ve never trusted math it’s too sneaky. I think you’ll have to kiss your sweetie, grab your favorite beverage & unpick the whole MF.

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    1. Julian Roberts insists it’s anti-maths, you honestly don’t even need measurements, and the natural geometry made sense [I thought]…but having hit a hurdle, no normal methods apply to fix it!

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  2. ok. i went back and re-read everything i have downloaded and yes, the pattern itself is confusing. have you read the free download subtraction cutting booklet on j roberts’ website? that explains things the best. go to http://julianand.com/
    xxcat

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  3. I am still confident you will “make it work”. How trite sorry. My other half does say the more use the quick unpick gets during construction the more I love the finished garment. Positive sewing vibes coming your way.

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  4. I think that when math or science let you down, you get a free do-over. *shrug* Also snacks and fun videos. It’s a compensatory package deal for catastrophic failure of ‘reality’.

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      1. Good for you. I ordered a box of 25 dvds that a shop was selling, and i am loking forward to them–older films, older tv, nothing stressful. I also have somehow been in a new and exciting relationship with chocolate only this week or so. I lose interest in it and the good stuff sits in the fridge or freezer and does not get eaten, but OH how that has changed this week! We are in bed together every single night, staying up late, and I have yet to be disappointed!

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      2. Korg will make the day go better. Everything is better with Korg. I used that film like a crutch. When I was having a bad day, I’d go see it again. Thank god I can buy it and save myself some money.
        I am going to take advantage of your hard work and just emulate those sweet gathers on a muslin and see what I get. I am skipping the holes. I am wide enough now the fabric would be more net than fiber.

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  5. More like Origami than dressmaking, you need an assistant, two heads etc. etc.
    This puts me in mind of flat pack furniture, baffling and infuriating to put together and easier with two people. Sleep on it, I have my fingers crossed.

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  6. Stop beating yourself up! I just watched the video of him putting it on the dummy and he didn’t look like he knew what he was doing either! It was sped up and I would love to know how long it actually took him, he was cutting and sewing as he went, no wonder you’re having difficulties xxx

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    1. Lol thanks- I must admit, each time I’ve seen him scoop it up and drop it onto a model, it looks totally random. However, I have not seen anyone of my dimensions wearing one! I may consider putting in a zip after all, or inserting some of the offcut fabric in random godets and gores, that should do it without sacrificing the look. I’ve even considerd making a sort of intestine of fabric to join the two problematic circles back together, then just leave it hanging! Who knows? I’m trying to embrace my inner Dalí!

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  7. I would love to look at this and try it on. The perfect garment for a party. I feel sure you will crack it soon. Like Annie I always sleep on these problems. My relaxed sleeping brain can usually make connections I can’t make when I am trying to hard and fully conscious.

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  8. I’ve always wanted to have a go at one of these subtraction dresses but have yet to try it out. I went and downloaded the instructions and then looked at your last post. Apologies if I’m wrong…but it looks like your layout is a combination of the two versions. On the tube version he has the front and back bodice pieces both on the same side of the tube (I think!). But other than that I’m not sure what’s going on? My head is hurting from imagining it being put together…. I might have to try a doll sized version to see how it works!

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    1. It IS a combo, but topologically speaking, that shouldn’t matter. The issue seems to be the width, implying that the Pattern Design method is inadequate for anyone of human girth! I think gussets may help…

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    2. Version A is laid out flat, pattern pieces cut separately, and two side seams [more wasteful] Version B makes the tube first. Where you position the bodice patterns isn’t important, but you get more oomph if they are skew. Putting them both on one side makes for more volume in the back of the dress, rather than 50-50. I think!

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  9. I looked at this video from Stitchless TV several months ago and it was helpful in understanding the process. That said, I still haven’t attempted the thing because I don’t need the frustration in my life now.

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    1. Yes that’s one I watched, and I noticed she used two complete widths of fabric [which is NOT what the pattern says] and also she has hips smaller than my waist. Also, she talks about threading the body through the loops, but does’t actually do so. I’m starting to think that anyone larger than a UK 12 needs to double the bloody thing up!

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      1. Been following this with much interest and I applaud your efforts. The Stitchless TV videos are quite good and pretty clear but yer man’s speeded up video… phew! Also found his booklet irritating, and from a first glance, not easy to read (handwritten… puhleese!). I too have been wondering how it works if one’s dimension’s are rather more than a size 12. If anyone can make it work, I’m sure you can!

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      2. I wasn’t struck with the handwritten thing, but I followed the idea well enough. Clearly if I doubled the fabric content, and had 60″ width for front and back there would be no issue…but who needs 8m of fabric dangling from their shoulders?

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