The tedious part of any project is the fitting, as far as I’m concerned. Oh for the days when I could just buy a pattern, bang it together, and wear it. Partly because I was pretty much straight up-and-down in figure, and because I really didn’t know [or give] a damn about fitting, I was oblivious.
The only thing I knew for sure about my own figure was my broad shouldered-ness.
Unfortunately, combining a 50+ cake-loving body with a close-fitting garment like this requires a bit more work.
I also find that since I did the Craftsy ‘Couture Dress’ course, I’m more inclined to pither about with the insides of a special garment: I know it makes a difference.
So apart from careful pressing, all those seams also need clipping, trimming back the underlining to reduce bulk, and then catch stitching all the seam allowances down, using what I was taught to call a herringbone stitch. It’s actually a very speedy process, it doesn’t have to be pretty, and usually I don’t care what colour thread I use. This allows me to use up all those almost-spent bobbins, and bits and bobs. I’ve also stabilised all those neck edges, and the armhole edges with iron on tape.
But then I paused [thankfully early on in the process] and realised that my lining fabric is actuallyvery fine, and a pale colour. Some of these internal workings will still be faintly visible through the lining…poop. So I had to stop using all the fluorescent yellow casting threads [don’t ask] and switch to matching thread.
THEN I realised that I should stop until after doing the final fitting.
THEN I realised that I really couldn’t be bothered to get rigged up, and tody enough for photos [you certainly don’t want pics of me with unwashed hair, bottle-bottom glasses, and a corset over baggy pyjama trousers. Trust me.]
I’ve basted the sleeves in, as that will affect the fit across the back.
Alterations/tweaks so far:
- I took in a little extra on the back shoulder seam, just on the back piece, tapering off along the shoulder.
- I took in a little on the side waist seams.
- I took in a little at the top of the back curved seams.
This is all to reduce the bit of bagginess that was showing at the upper back, by the armscye, and was averaged out from all the advice from different sources.
OK, so here are the pics, once I got all strapped up: I think the lower part of the torso, and definitely the back, are now good, in fact I’m really chuffed with the fit across the upper back. Once the back stay and lining are in, I don’t think there’ll be ny corset-scar to mention.
However, the sleeves are doing something shitty: I matched up the notches with the correct places as per the instructions, and the curve of the sleeve is lovely…it looks to me as though they aren’t in the right place though- there is too much gathering fullness at the front, and not enough at the back. Because of this, it’s all pulling the bodice out of whack at the underarm. Look at that middle pic, top row- the left sleeve is collapsing forward…very odd.
Opinions please?
[NB, there’s now, oddly, a fair bit of overlap at CF, those drag lines are not caused by bust tightness]
I also intend to add some tailoring padding of some form to the upper front/chest area, as it’s collapsing a bit. Probably a chest piece and a tad pad stitching?
Fire away.
That’s so odd. They don’t appear to be in backwards given the angle of the elbow but…Maybe when you were sewing it somehow shifted the gathering? It’s almost like you have one really big pleat there in the front causing the collapsing.
Another thought is that perhaps the problem is the opposite and that you need more room in the bust. That underarm does look a bit like it’s hanging on for dear life.
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THere’s loads of bust room now the boning is in [weird]. I think the markings may be off, the sleeve head looks like it should be rotated towards the back? The gathering is so tight, it couldn’t shift if it wanted to…
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In the words of Geoffrey Rush in Shakespeare in Love “It’s a mystery!”
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Are your shoulders perhaps rotated a bit forward? Many of us develop this issue because we sit at desks hunching over keyboards all day. If the sleeve is set on straight vertically, as one would normally do, but the shoulder is actually rotated forward, it can cause all kinds of pulling and other fit problems.
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Hmmm interesting- I’ve never noticed this, but who knows? This is the first garment I’ve ever fitted this closely… I’ve been advised to contact Truly Victorian via FAcebook to see if they can help.
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Do you by any chance read Threads Magazine? One of the authors addresses this fitting issue very comprehensively in issue 169 (October/November 2013). You could read it online, but you’d have to be a subscriber to the magazine’s website to get the article or a video on the same topic.
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DF, as far as the lines at the bust and actually on the side backs…….it looks like there is too much fabric from you underarm area to waist. If you raise the underarm it may solve both the bust and sleeve problem. Making the armhole smaller would take the excess out of the sleeve. All this to say, the pattern appears slightly large in those areas.
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Thanks- it’s mad, as at the toile stage, the general opinion was that the bust was way too small. Amazing what a difference the fabric can make. I’ll be taking the sleeves out, and will maybe take some more pics without them, to see what we can deduce…sigh. It’s such a palaver!
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But then again, that may not be the issue at all! Reading drag lines is very difficult sometimes.
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I can’t be of any fitting assistance at all, but I’d just like to say the fit across the back looks great! These are very interesting posts, and will no doubt help me in my own endevours 😉
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Thanks- I’m very pleased with the salvage job on the back after the bulging horrors of the first attempt!
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This is looking way better across the back. I think that the idea of a little padding would be good. Have you tried it with a shoulder pad in. That might do away with some of the wrinkling. I am not sure where those drag marks are from. I suspect that the side part maybe be too small from side to bust rather than the whole front (sorry not explaining that very well) but can’t tell very well from the pics. Also, is there any chance you cut the sleeves upside down? I am asking this as I have and the end result made the fullness in the wrong place. 🙂 Do the drag marks go when the sleeves are removed? That could also be the culprit. Looking very good though. Xx
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Sleeves are coming off today, then another set of pics, then trying some of the suggested fixes…hope I crack it soon or it’s liable to get shelved. I’m very impatient!
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Coming late to this post, so I won’t throw in my version of drag-line interpretation, but just say that the cut of the bodice is looking pretty stylish.
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Yes, it is a gorgeous style, I’m hopefully close to finishing now.
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